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post Feb 26th 2012, 1:47 PM
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I know we have 2 days until we get any ratings, but I figured I'd start this for when it's ready to go. Great predictor of results, and all around just a fun site to go to!

http://whatnottosing.com/seasons.asp?id=11





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post Feb 26th 2012, 1:48 PM
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post Feb 26th 2012, 1:52 PM
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I hope the scores improve. They underscore oh so much and some are over scored as well.


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post Feb 26th 2012, 1:57 PM
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QUOTE(druth8x @ Feb 26th 2012, 12:52 PM) *

I hope the scores improve. They underscore oh so much and some are over scored as well.



You can help by providing data for their baseline scoring on each episode.

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Help Wanted, 2012 Edition: Readers are once again invited to email us their rated reviews of the performances after each episode. Whether you grade the performances on a 0-to-100 scale, or one to ten, or A through F is completely up to you, as long as you are consistent from week to week. We use these reviews to help set the high, low, and average rating for the episode accurately. (Emailed reviews are not used directly to calculate any individual performance's rating – for that, we use our web sources as always.)

So if you would like to put your $0.02 in at the end of every show and help improve WNTS, both for this season and beyond, now would be a great time to start. You can find our mailing addresses on the Contact Us page. We need you to submit at least one review to establish a personal baseline before we can start using your input in future weeks.


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post Feb 26th 2012, 1:58 PM
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I don't understand how they say they use them but don't use them.


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post Feb 26th 2012, 2:04 PM
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QUOTE(druth8x @ Feb 26th 2012, 12:58 PM) *

I don't understand how they say they use them but don't use them.


Its useful in determining if an extreme web-based rating is an outlier or actually representative enough to include in the standard deviation. If they find an extreme web-based rating to be an outlier, they could exclude it from the episode ratings.


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post Feb 26th 2012, 2:20 PM
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oh so they trust those that email as a way to see the general idea. However, we are such a small sample size and the same ones over and over and might be counted twice if they added ours into the web one.

I get it now.



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post Feb 26th 2012, 3:28 PM
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I can't find that thread I posted about the contestants pre-exposure levels(how much airtime they had before semis) which were based on this site. So here is how they have them.

Guys:
Adam Brock- Hollywood
Aaron Marcellus- Hollywood
Chase Likens- Minimal
Colton Dixon- Promo
Creighton Fraker- Promo
DeAndre Brackensick- Hollywood
Eben Franckewitz- Promo
Joshua Ledet- Hollywood
Jeremy Rosado- Hollywood
Hee Jun Han- Promo
Phillip Phillips- Promo
Reed Grimm- Audition- Is this correct? I'd think he'd be a promo after the Georgia thing

Girls:
Baylie Brown- Audition
Brielle Von Hugel- Hollywood
Chelsea Sorrell- Minimal
Elise Testone- Audition- I don't think this is correct either.
Erika Van Pelt- Promo
Haley Johnson- Hollywood
Hallie Day- Promo
Hollie Cavanagh- None (although she was shown very briefly last week)
Jen Hirsh- Hollywood
Jessica Sanchez- Hollywood- I have a feeling some will argue with this but I agree with it.
Shannon Magrane- Promo
Skylar Laine- Promo


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post Feb 26th 2012, 4:00 PM
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Jen and Jessica's HW are 2 different things.

Haley really?

I think Haley should be minimal.

I'd also put Jessica as minimal as well vs HW cause she only was shown 2/6th of all her performances


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post Feb 26th 2012, 4:23 PM
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QUOTE(druth8x @ Feb 26th 2012, 4:00 PM) *

Jen and Jessica's HW are 2 different things.

Haley really?

I think Haley should be minimal.

I'd also put Jessica as minimal as well vs HW cause she only was shown 2/6th of all her performances



I wonder if the actual time they've been on air makes a difference. For that to be the case you'd have to actually time them, since it appears to have been lost I could time just the ones in question.

ETA: This is going off MJ's YouTube vids so it may not be exact but:
Jessica- 9:20
Haley-6:28


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I much prefer that idea better. I bet CPR and HJH are 30-60minutes each.


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post Feb 26th 2012, 4:40 PM
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Not really possible I don't think.


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post Feb 26th 2012, 4:55 PM
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Elise is Hollywood, they montaged her audition.
Reed is barely promo, as they gave his background at audition.

Minimal is pretty much you get very short glimpses of them singing and no personal screentime.

Jessica and Haley both got to talk in their GM segments, so they ain't minimal.


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Well, they need to expand that exposure a bit then. It's too broad.


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post Feb 26th 2012, 5:12 PM
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I wonder where is that guitarman's thread where I posted exact pre-Top42 airtime for each contestant...mhmh, whatever.

I don't agree only with Elise's pre-exposure level. IMO she's hollywood.

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QUOTE(vuic @ Feb 26th 2012, 5:12 PM) *

I wonder where is that guitarman's thread where I posted exact pre-Top42 airtime for each contestant...mhmh, whatever.

I don't agree only with Elise's pre-exposure level. IMO she's hollywood.


Tried to find it but couldn't. I don't agree with Elise's level either.

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If you email them with your opinions on Exposure Levels, they'll change them. They typically go by what most people feel in regards to them.

Also, just realized that Hollie's the first contestant to get marked with "None" since S8.

QUOTE(guitarman8484 @ Feb 26th 2012, 3:28 PM) *
Reed Grimm- Audition- Is this correct? I'd think he'd be a promo after the Georgia thing
They count promo based off how the audition is set up, not the Hollywood rounds.


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Preliminary Ratings:

GUYS - 46.8
Joshua Ledet - You Pulled Me Through - 81
Phillip Phillips - In the Air Tonight - 67
Colton Dixon - Decode - 63
Creighton Fraker - True Colors - 55
Jeremy Rosado - Gravity - 55
Aaron Marcellus - Never Can Say Goodbye - 52
Jermaine Jones - Dance With My Father - 51
Heejun Han - Angels - 38
DeAndre Brackensick - Reasons - 37
Reed Grimm - Moves Like Jagger - 36
Chase Likens - Storm Warning - 32
Adam Brock - Think - 32
Eben Franckewitz - Set Fire to the Rain - 10

GIRLS - 53.4
Elise Testone - One and Only - 84
Jessica Sanchez - Love You I Do - 82
Hollie Cavanagh - Reflection - 76
Skylar Laine - Stay With Me - 74
Erika Van Pelt - What About Love - 63
Shannon Magrane - Go Light Your World - 62
Hallie Day - Feeling Good - 58
Jennifer Hirsch - One and Only - 53
Chelsea Sorrell - Cowboy Casanova - 40
Brielle Von Hugel - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay - 24
Baylie Brown - Amazed - 13
Haley Johnsen - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - 12

Please remember that the girls show is still airing on the west coast so the ratings for them will likely have some major changes before they're finalized.

At any rate, get it Elise. wub.gif


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Decently ok rankings and the ratings aren't that bad, I think.


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