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> Legal Recreational Marijuana: Not So Far Out
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post Feb 17th 2012, 3:21 PM
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This issue seems to have faded into the background a bit, but seeing as voters in both Washington and Colorado face the opportunity to legalize marijuana this November, I thought I'd throw it up for discussion. I remember IDF was split down the middle on this issue the last time it was discussed.

As TIME's Adam Cohen reports, legal recreational marijuana may be closer than some imagine.

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Legal Recreational Marijuana: Not So Far Out

With medical marijuana now available in 16 states, decriminalizing pot for recreational use could be around the corner

The drive to legalize marijuana has long been a fringe cause, associated with hard-core libertarians and college-age stoners. But it could go mainstream in a big way in this Novemberís election, when Washington could become the first state to legalize recreational pot use. If it does ó or if voters in any of several other states do ó this year could be a turning point in the nationís treatment of marijuana.

The idea that a majority of voters could support legalizing marijuana may seem far out ó but the polls say otherwise. In many states, the prolegalization and antilegalization camps are roughly equal in size. In a poll of Washington state voters released last month, supporters of the legalization referendum outnumbered opponents: 48% vs. 45%.

Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2012/02/06/legal-rec...t#ixzz1mfkOkXNo


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post Feb 22nd 2012, 2:31 AM
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QUOTE(bumnummies @ Feb 20th 2012, 8:32 PM) *

Yeah, my only issue really is smoking + children.... poor parenting, essentially. My only question is the negative effects on second hand weed and whether or not kids could get high from the second hand smoke. tongue.gif That's like.... probably my only major concern for legalization (but, parents can smoke cigarettes around their kids and contribute to problems like asthma!). I just think like, the government wastes so much time locking people up for possession and even trafficking.... they could not only divert all of that labour into other things, and not only save money from it not being tied up in the system, but could EARN money from it being a regulated, taxable product. I don't think it's any more harmful than alcohol on a person and certainly a lot more "natural" and less toxic than cigarettes, which are still legal.... tongue.gif There aren't a lot of good arguments I've heard to truly stay against it.

PS when did Justin Trudeau get so old???? I didn't realize he was already 40, holy crap. At least he doesn't look it most of the time, lol.

I hate not being able to do things responsibly because crappy parents can't control their stupid kids.

Your post brings up many of the points to which I was referring. flowers.gif Additionally, legalization eliminates the fears related to private dealers and gangs. You'd know that the weed you're buying is safe and clean and that it didn't pass through the wrong hands.

There are ways to suggest cigarettes are more harmful (nicotine, tar, chemical additives, etc.) and ways to argue weed smoke is harder on your lungs. Also, the latter impairs you. Some go by the notion that cigarettes are worse for your health and weed is worse for your head. The closest thing to a general consensus is that neither one is healthy.

Yeah, I thought he was more of a Liberal Party wunderkind. He doesn't look like either of his parents. And I hope I have hair like that at 40. I just looked up his stances on pot, and he actually opposes legalization. Though it sounds like he's lied about personal use.

QUOTE(juniorfan4eva @ Feb 20th 2012, 9:17 PM) *

That's really only if they were to be in a REALLY small space with no air circulation, like if they were smoking in a car with all the windows done up or something.

Anyway, I think it's good that thye're even considering it. I have never really understood why - it's much less harmful than alcohol. Not that everyone should be going out and buying weed once it's legalized but yeah... alcohol is way worse, long and short term affects. whistling.gif

An infant--assuming he or she doesn't spark on the regular--would probably get high on second hand if a parent is doing in the same room in a house. There's no issue if parents just do the sensible thing and not smoke around their kids, but if you're the kind of parent who doesn't care enough to smoke with an infant in the room, you probably don't care if it's legal.

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QUOTE(RWG @ Feb 22nd 2012, 2:31 AM) *

There are ways to suggest cigarettes are more harmful (nicotine, tar, chemical additives, etc.) and ways to argue weed smoke is harder on your lungs. Also, the latter impairs you. Some go by the notion that cigarettes are worse for your health and weed is worse for your head. The closest thing to a general consensus is that neither one is healthy.


The drug in weed that gets you high (THC) is perfectly healthy. Where weed is not healthy is the most common method of delivery which is smoke. Combusting the cannabis plant produces toxins and tars similar to that in tobacco smoke, which is what is harmful. However there are healthier ways to consume it such as in food or vaporization.


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QUOTE(newarchiefan @ Feb 22nd 2012, 2:15 PM) *

The drug in weed that gets you high (THC) is perfectly healthy. Where weed is not healthy is the most common method of delivery which is smoke. Combusting the cannabis plant produces toxins and tars similar to that in tobacco smoke, which is what is harmful. However there are healthier ways to consume it such as in food or vaporization.

A good amount of research links cannabinoids and male fertility, no? Here's a study I just dug up. Dated stoner caricatures aside, that's the only criticism I've heard of THC itself.


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A good amount of research links cannabinoids and male fertility, no? Here's a study I just dug up. Dated stoner caricatures aside, that's the only criticism I've heard of THC itself.


Hmm, interesting hadn't seen that.

I do agree that there needs to be more research. The legal status has really inhibited a lot of research opportunities on it.


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